How Conservative Are We?
A new study by the Bay Area Center for Voting Research ranks the nation’s 237 cities with populations of more than 100,000 in two categories...most politically conservative and liberal. O.C. cities making the Conservative list:
# 10 Orange
# 17 Garden Grove
# 25 Huntington Beach
# 32 Fullerton
# 35 Anaheim
# 68 Irvine
On the Most Liberal Cities List the highest ranking for an O.C. city was Irvine at # 169.
The most conservative city in the U.S. – Provo, UT. The most liberal – Detroit, MI.
Woo-hoo! Is Orange a great city, or what?
Posted by: The Fez | August 11, 2005 at 05:45 PM
My hometown of Orange was beaten out by Bakersfield (aka Bill Thomas-town) as the most conservative city in California?
As SpongeBob would say, "Barnacles!"
Posted by: The Fez | August 11, 2005 at 05:49 PM
Looks about right. I have argued for a long time that the old 68th AD (Curt Pringle's District in the Assembly), as an example was always more conservative than the 70th A.D. (Newport/Irvine.) As Republican...no. More conservative...definitely. Garden Grove voters, who I know well, are anti-tax, church going, and aren't inhaling that liberal ocean breeze.
Posted by: Jeff Flint | August 11, 2005 at 06:56 PM
Heh. I was born in Plano, TX. I'll vouch that it oughta be #5.
Posted by: aldahlia | August 11, 2005 at 07:23 PM
Of course Irvine/NPB is not too conservative. It included UCI and, by definition, people with higher education with inquiring minds and intellectual honesty can see the role of government to do good. Conservatives, on the other hand, want small government.. until they need assistance and, of course, until they are in an absolute power and love big government to promote their agenda.
As for the study, interesting that one of the contact person is a 949er: Lindsay Elizabeth Hogan, (949) 370-9847
Posted by: Hanna | August 11, 2005 at 10:03 PM
I love that we are in the top ten of Cities that are conservative...what troubles me is the City of Orange leadership.
Cavecche...RINO and a real ball buster
Smith....a DEM...oops, do the residents know about that
Dumitru...I agree with other post..good and solid conservative, should seek higher office in the future, but stills needs more time.
Ambriz...Good and solid, should run for Mayor and give Cavecche a real challenger and I think he would win
Murphy....Republican but needs assistance to remember where he stands...
Over all, the mayors race in 2006 should be cavecche v. ambriz and if Dumitru stays the course I would be supportive of BOS or 71 AD. For Smith, 1 term'r..Murphy...who knows..maybe he'll run for City COuncil again and make Cavecches life hell if she is Mayor.
Just food for thought, but I suppose as I sit in the City Council meetings almost every meeting or watch on TV, my thoughts may change....and maybe they won't....ha ha..I sound like Murphy now.
Posted by: Frank Johnson | August 12, 2005 at 05:10 PM
I live in Orange too (well El Modena)...maybe we should start a Ambriz for Mayor or Dumitru for Mayor Campaign. I think the women on the council are out of control anti-business and cater to the left wing special interests....
I disagree with your views on Murphy he is a good leader
Posted by: starsandbars | August 12, 2005 at 05:13 PM
I sure hope Hanna comes back to this comment thread ...
Hanna, what a pompous post you made; I'm sure it comes directly from an individual who has often referred to Republicans as pompous. Get a life Hanna! I'll match my higher education, as well as that of my acquaintances, with yours and your friends. I’ll presume the advanced education slants in my favor -- and we’re Conservative.
You confuse intellectual and pseudo-intellectual; true intellectuals take into account sound theory with practical historical experience; by definition (unlike your pseudo use of ‘by definition’), intellectual means to be rational rather than emotional. Pseudo-intellectuals, like your ilk, completely ignore rationality when historical evidence doesn’t fit your agenda. The theories of Karl Marx perhaps make sense to some. However, implementation of Marxist theory has been attempted time and again with the same result -- FAILURE! Nevertheless, that’s where you would like to see the U.S.
You also confuse Conservative with Republican; believe me, they are absolutely NOT interchangeable terms. You’re correct that Republicans will, and do, increase the size of government to suit their whims; Conservatives will, and do, reduce government size (which IS one of our whims).
I suggest that you finally read the U.S. Constitution and, more importantly, the Federalist Papers which were written to support the adoption of the Constitution (paying particular attention to Federalist #10; it explains quite clearly that the U.S. was formed as a REPUBLIC, not a democracy; #10 continually points out the dangers of democracy; an intellectual understands the difference).
Posted by: Logical | August 13, 2005 at 01:01 PM
>>Conservatives will, and do, reduce government size (which IS one of our whims).<<
When does that happen?
Posted by: | August 13, 2005 at 01:06 PM
Excellent question. Perhaps I should have said Conservatives 'vote' for smaller government; since too many non-Conservative Republicans get elected it's difficult to actually make that happen.
Posted by: Logical | August 13, 2005 at 03:08 PM